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Models: Attract Women Through Honesty

Models: Attract Women Through Honesty

Models is the first book ever written on seduction as an emotional process rather than a logical one, a process of connecting with women rather than impressing them. It’s the most mature and honest guide on how a man can attract women without faking behavior, without lying and without emulating others. A game-changer.

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Rules of the Game

Rules of the Game

Neil Strauss, New York Times bestselling author of The Game, now brings readers a portable, omnibus paperback edition of his box set Rules of the Game—a unique how-to guide for pickup artists (The StyleLife Challenge) and a volume of Game stories (The Style Diaries)—with new bonus material. The Stylelife Challenge is the manual Strauss, author of Emergency, thought he’d never write: the ultimate guide to landing the woman of your dreams, while The Style Diaries takes readers further into the seduction underworld than ever before, and delves where The Game never dared to tread: into the even more complicated rules of relationships.Neil Strauss, the New York Times bestselling author of The Game, presents Rules of the Game:

I. The Stylelife Challenge
Master the Game in 30 Days

II. The Style Diaries
The Pickup Artist’s Companion

Questions for Neil Strauss

Amazon.com: Yours has to be one of the strangest career paths in the book business: from rock critic at the New York Times, to cowriter of memoirs with rockers and porn stars, to bestselling seduction guru. Do you ever wonder how you got from point A to point Z?

Strauss: Oddly, I never do. Instead, I wonder why it took me so long to get to point Z. And then I wonder if people are going to stick with me when I go to point whatever-is-after-Z next. I guess that would be point AA–which, come to think of it, I’ve already been to with Dave Navarro while writing his book.

Amazon.com: You write in the introduction to Rules of the Game that you thought The Game was your “last word on the subject,” and you were ready to get on with your life. But, like Michael Corleone, you got pulled back in. Why was it so hard to leave?

Strauss: Good simile. Someone else compared it to Donnie Brasco. There’s something about the seduction community that sucks people in. I’ve seen college kids drop out of school; doctors quit their jobs; and celebrities take huge career risks to pursue this knowledge.

It may be because, according to the Kinsey Institute, most men think about sex every two minutes. But our society has never given them tools to safely fulfill these desires. Once they find out there’s a way to learn to be more successful with women–and see evidence that it works–they tend to dive in headfirst. Perhaps because, when it comes down to it, this is why we’re really here.

Amazon.com: Do you meet women who have read The Game? What do they think? And with the thousands of people out there you have trained and the many more thousands who have read the book, are women starting to recognize the strategies? Do they ever say, “Hey, you’re playing the Game on me”?

Strauss: I’ve run into some women who’ve read the book to learn about the male mind, and they’ve all been positive about it–the book, that is, not the male mind. It’s the women who’ve heard of the book but haven’t read it who want to burn it.

And actually, a guy at a book signing the other day told me he got caught using one of the openers. But he still walked away with her phone number. His advice: on the rare chance that it happens, don’t get scared and scamper off. Instead, use it as an opportunity to start a conversation about the game itself and whether it works. If they’ve read the book, this obviously means they’re interested in the subject–and now you both have something in common.

Amazon.com: Rules of the Game is actually two books: the Stylelife Challenge and the Style Diaries. The first book is pretty straightforward: a 30-day plan for “Mastering the Game.” But the second one is not what you’d expect in a self-help book. Can you explain what it is and why you included it?

Strauss: I didn’t want to just give people a self-help book, and promise that their life will be sunshine and unicorns forever. I wanted them to know that with knowledge and power come a new set of challenges and problems. So the black book contains seduction stories from the dark side of the game, and the fact that, as the German director Fassbinder put it, “We were born to need each other, but we still haven’t learned how to live with each other.”

Amazon.com: Part of the story of The Game was the tension of what happens, after you’ve become proficient at the Game, when you find someone you love. Is that the point: to go from player to lover (or, ulp, husband!)? How do you do that? Or does playing the Game become its own end for some people?

Strauss: If you master the game, then you also must master your own fears and insecurities. And overcoming these destructive traits can only help you have healthier relationships. That said, the downside to learning the game and then falling in love is that you have to be strong, because there are a lot more options than there once were. So for readers who are having trouble: the secret to monogamy is realizing that the fantasy of being with someone else is usually better than the reality. You can’t do better than love.

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32 of 33 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars
Invest in yourself. Why you SHOULD or SHOULDN’T buy this book., May 13, 2013
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I would like to start with: Each review here has it’s merits. The good ones AND the bad ones. Prepare for a lot of text.

Firstly about the Author:
The book was written by Mark Manson. From what I gather, he’s a traveler and has helped men around the globe with psychological, sexual and ‘connection’ issues with women. He owns and runs the website […] and has a few products there.

The Book:
The underlying theme I personally felt was about “investing in yourself” and being ‘honest’. Having read a few PUA books, I felt this was its strong point. The book goes through a few parts, I may need to put a disclaimer here but this is how I felt about the book:

1. You are first introduced to the author and go through a few stories. One did hit the nail on the head with me. Mark then goes through different types of men and women.
2. You are then introduced to the theme of ‘investing in yourself’ – by investing in yourself, you reduce your ‘neediness’ and hence in turn become more ‘attractive’. The principle is by actually having a voice, being who you want to be – you will actually find women who you want to be around, and more importantly you will most likely stand out around the crowd.
3. Mark then goes through his 3 key principles to achieve this: Honest Living, Honest Action and Honest Communication. By living who YOU want to be, by doing things that express who YOU are and by communicating YOUR honest thoughts – you will in turn become ‘attractive’.

The parts that resonated with me:
1. Don’t fear rejection
2. The more people you meet in life (through rejection) can only lead to meeting more people that you want to actually be with.
3. ‘Demographics’ – go to places where you will most likely find people you want to be with.
4. Express who you are and be proud of it.
5. Know your intentions – go out with those intentions.
6. You don’t need openers. Just be yourself – ‘My name is ______’ works just fine.
7. Polarize people as soon as you can (shift them from attracted / not attracted )

There are other gems in the book I’m sure. After filtering in through all the reviews and comments I felt that I needed to write this review for those who are on the fence.

What to EXPECT:
1. A ‘guide’ to approaching women through honesty
2. A way to meet people you will most likely enjoy to be with in the future.
3. Build some confidence – get out there boy 😉
4. I want to state number 1 again: honesty is the key theme here.
5. Arguably a ‘long term solution’ & Arguably a more mature one?

What NOT to EXPECT:
1. This is not holy grail of knowledge, some of it is obvious. Hence why some reviews stated they knew most of this stuff. If you are living a great life (job etc), you are clear in your opinions and intentions, and you can communicate well don’t bother with this book. You already got it =)
2. You won’t get pick up lines, theories or openers.
3. You will not learn how to become the ultimate player – if that is your intention – there are great PUA options out there.
4. You will not attract ALL women – you will increase your chances to attract women that are more likely to be attracted in the ‘real’ you.
5. Numbers game. He hates it – so if you want to sleep with lots and lots of women and already doing so – read something else. Like I said – plenty of PUA books that tackle that.

Why is it NOT 5 stars?
1. You will note reviews on Amazon are very directed to how Mark has ‘an agenda’ in this book. I felt this agenda was that he is a bit ‘against’ Pick Up Artists (who don’t use honesty – through tricks and things that clearly aren’t who they are). Many times he will reflect on how PUAs don’t use honesty and hence you won’t find people for the long term. He did however state this in the book description. I don’t like it when an author needs to constantly validate his method against PUAs. Just once is fine, not consistently. I also respect some PUAs I know and they are as direct as they can be – they aren’t all about tricks.

2. My grammar is bad – but I am very certain this book was not proof read. It’s messy and a bit over the place in terms of actual text. If you read the book, you will understand I am very strict to this sense only because he reads quite a bit of literature – he should also appreciate that paying readers expect a book that has been proof read.

3. It was not concise, when at many times it could have been. Again – I pitch this as a problem since he teaches us to be concise.

I personally liked the book – would of given it 3.5/5 (I’m going to round up here). I think its down to earth and very personal. You will see swear words, you will read Mark’s stories, and you will find a gem that reminds you that you are unique. In a nutshell – it’s a lifestyle book. I’m confident after reading…

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46 of 54 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars
Solid Guide to Being an Awesome Guy, March 12, 2012
By 
Zac

This young author did something pretty amazing here. He wrote one of the best carrot on a string books I’ve ever read in my life.

To explain what I mean further, men love women and that is no secret. Not all men love leading an attractive lifestyle though. Not all men enjoy physical exercise, reading, eating right, becoming emotionally aware, or many of the other things this “guide to attracting women” teaches you you must do in order to be an attractive man. A lot of guys want easy solutions. This book explains that there are no easy solutions. I’d like to personally thank the author for laying that fact down for everyone. I hope any guys that reads this review takes one thing away from it, that there are no easy solutions and hard work is fundamental in success with your love life. This book will help you focus that hard work in ways that equal success.

A lot of books these days will sell you a shortcut method. The only shortcuts that might work don’t work for very long. If you want to be an attractive man you have to work hard on yourself and get rid of a shortcut mentality completely. Women can tell when you throw a band aid over a shotgun wound that you are bleeding all over the place and that is all a lot of the information out there today is.

Another great thing about this book is it’s (sadly) novel advice about vulnerability, connection, and emotional awareness. This book does a better job than any of the other men’s dating advice I’ve read in the past 2 years explaining the rolls these things have in our growth and development as men and how working on this area of yourself will improve your love life drastically.

I really enjoyed the section on “How to be Fascinating” as well as the one on “Demographics”. The polarizing section taught me a lot quickly too.

Overall I give this book 5 stars. It could have been a little shorter but considering how much bullcrap is out there that guys are reading to get girls it’s not a big deal at all because it isn’t a huge book full of crap. It’s a huge book full of great information to teach you how to become an attractive man, relate and interact with women you find attractive, and have healthy relationships with them (as well as yourself). If the author is guilty of anything it’s putting too much great information into one book and not charging you for sections of knowledge instead.

I can’t wait to see what other books the author comes out with next as this seems to be his first.

If you are a guy that is having trouble with his love life, read this book immediately. Don’t buy 20 different books and join a pickup lair and watch a bunch of Youtube videos. Read this book first. Evaluate where you stand as an attractive man first and understand wherever you are you can improve. It’s a long road from where you are but if you start walking… no running down it, you will start to see some great results in your life soon.

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43 of 55 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars
Signals the Evolution of Dating Advice (or Pickup Theory) with a Mature Approach, September 8, 2011
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Personally I come from a background of having used Pickup Theory and Dating Advice to improve my dating life and I’ve done so successfully. Needless to say I know from personal experience what works and what turns out to be utter bull. I don’t even have to read any of this stuff anymore, but from time to time, if a new book comes out I still enjoy reading. I do it to see what new stuff the book brings to the table (which is often not much new under the sun) and it always gives you a good flow of energy to continue to work on yourself and such.

But this book is something totally different that what I’ve seen coming across for a while.
I’d describe the book as: very good for an understanding of the basics of how attraction works, very mature, evolved and shedding a crystal clear light upon how dating and pickup advice affects men today. For example Mark clears up the issues around certain pickup advice being useless since a lot of it disregards differences in demographics, people, lifestyles, values etc (even though he sometimes uses extreme examples to get his point across, I still understand the essence of what he tries to convey). It will keep a lot of men from getting frustrated as a lot of beginners tend to implement pick up stuff on the wrong people in the wrong places with the wrong intentions and with wrong ways of measuring succes or growth and thus end up with more frustration than ever.

This book then continues by showing a quality roadmap to improve your lifestyle, you anxiety or social disconnectedness and then your communication skills. Mark gives theory and then practical guidelines It all comes together really good and is very coherent. His casual writing style makes the book very accessible for you to read. I flipped through the pages easily for hours since this was such a pleasant reading experience. Indeed there are a lot of grammar errors throughout the book but that doesn’t outweigh the quality of advice given in Models for one bit.

Mark’s book clears up a lot of issues men encounter when trying to get better with women (with quiet hilarious examples). It disenchants you from all kinds of pickup taboos. It’s is very authentic and comes back to the undeniable truth that you have to develop yourself as a man in order to attract quality women. It is about honest communication and expressing yourself freely instead of using countless gimmicks (even though some of them are very effective and may work in the framework of honest communication, which he explains all throughout the book). Models provides a very good roadmap for developing both your inner gamer as well as cultivating specific necessary skills needed to get results with women quickly. I’d say try acting on the plan that he provides in here for a while before you consider taking a Pickup Bootcamp. I’ve been on two of those and even though I’m not gonna disclose wether you’ll really benefit from those or not, I can say that you really want to find out if you need something like a bootcamp before spending so much money. I think this book if a great way to find this out for yourself.

I think this book is a GEM for any man dedicated to improving his love live. And I firmly believe this book will help out a lot of men who are already trying to implement dating advice but are struggling with it.
And I’m convinced that Mark’s book brings a fresh breath of air in the evolution of pickup material and is FAR more realistic than a lot of advice out there.

I’m no friend nor contact of Mark, but when I appreciate something that I know works and has been put together with heart, authentic intentions and real expertise, then I support it so that it can do a lot of good for it’s intended purpose.

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153 of 170 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars
The perfect first steps, January 3, 2008
By 
Joshua Olson (Portland, Or) –
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This review is from: Rules of the Game (Hardcover)

This book is about much more than just meeting and having sex with beautiful women. (Although, that is the primary motivation for guys to learn this stuff.) That is the biggest difference between Style’s material and all the other master’s stuff. Neil is teaching you to become a confident, socially adept person, not just a pickup machine.

I started getting into the game a couple years ago when I started listening to David DeAngelo (also very focused on helping people become a better person, but still focused very heavily on the dating aspect) and he really opened my eyes to what I was doing wrong. Then I happened to come across this guy called Mystery and the stuff he was doing just blew David D out of the water as far as going out and picking up girls. This was what he was all about and he did it like that was his calling in life. The stuff Mystery pulls off would impress anyone. Eventually, I heard about the game and picked it up. It is a great history of the pick up community and of how Neil became Style and surpassed Mystery as a pick up artist.

This book seems to me to be a look back to when Neil was just starting out and what he wishes he had, had before he went to that first field boot camp with Mystery. It contains the steps needed to learn this stuff without having a baptism by fire and also warns of the dark side of getting good with this material.

Right now I’m on day 3 of the Stylelife Challenge and a member of Style’s academy (Stylelife.com) and even though I have met the goals of the challenge (get a date) several times since starting to read this, I still believe it will help me become a more socially adept person.

I would recommend to anyone starting out on this path to read “Rules of the Game” first then “The Game”.

Following that I would suggest (as one possible path):
Mystery Method (Can be bought on amazon)
Any of David D’s material (Very good foundation material)

From there I would suggest branching out and learning social skills:
Body Language (The Definitive Book of Body Language)
Story Telling (Lots of good books)
Conversation (Again lots of books)
Fitness (You need to take care of yourself)
Basic Fashion/Style (Details Men’s Style Manual: The Ultimate Guide for Making Your Clothes Work for You)

More advanced material (Mystery Learned much of what he knows from these two books, I believe)
The Art of Seduction
The 48 Laws of Power

Lastly, take a look at this material from a female perspective
The Manual
Why Men Love Bitches

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145 of 178 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars
Go watch the movie…”Ground Hog Day”…, March 1, 2008
By 
Charles Runels Md “research physician & fathe… (Fairhope, AL, United States) –
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In the movie Ground Hog Day, Bill Murray cannot seduce the woman of his dreams until he eventually just forgets the woman and works on creating a better Bill Murray.

The best way to attract is to actually be attractive.

Strauss teaches that being attractive deals with who you are and what you are doing on the planet (not just with your attire and body shape). Surprisingly, much of the point of one of these two books is simply about how to create a better self (not so much about crazy sexual adventure). Here you will find a step-by-step improvement plan that includes details of grooming, presence, speech, goal development, and social interactions.

It can be a handicapp to be honest and loving but be seen as cold and manipulative. Seduction techniques can actually help an honest person avoid being misinterpreted.

If you are already successful in the social and business world, most of this will be review. But, you may find a few blind spots if you breeze through the plan.

Though the game of seduction can be cruel and manipulative and used for ill means. Like any powerful tool, it can be used for good as well. In the best use, seduction means being deliciously attractive in who you are and what you are about. Christ was seductive in this sense; attractive in love and power to the point that people were happier for giving up everything to follow him around.

I have a 16-year-old son. The 30 day plan offers him good starting strategies for developing social and business skill. But, the detailed advice should be valuable for most men and women of any age.

Charles Runels, MD

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11 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars
Changed My Life, January 7, 2013
By 
Gecko

This review is from: Rules of the Game (Paperback)

I bought an earlier version of this book about four years ago at the age of 26. Before then, I had always had poor luck with women and was very unconfident and slightly insecure. I was always passed over for my other guy friends. I heard about this guy from a friend, who always talked about the author’s methods. Though I thought it was a little ridiculous, I bought the book hoping to gain even the slightest edge. I got so much more than that.

In the Challenge book, he does day by day challenges and orders you not to skip ahead or skip challenges. Some of these challenges bordered on ludicrous (calling random numbers from a phone book and striking up conversations with whoever answers? Seriously?) so I did not follow those orders. I did some of the challenges but not most of them. What helped me the most was his explanations about why men and women are attracted to certain people and how this is naturally wired into our brains. He takes a very natural and LOGICAL approach that clears up most all misunderstandings about dating (example: why guys think women are attracted to guys who treat them bad) and explains how all mating and dating rituals are tied to the natural desire to find the strongest and most successful mate and parent to our children, which is what all life on earth does, as well as humans. He explains how to take advantage of this logic and science to be more successful with women, not necessarily to “pick up” women, but to also find healthy long term relationships.

After finishing the book within a week, I started using his advice and tactics when out with friends. It quickly became second nature. I quickly noticed better responses from women, and even my own friends wanted to be around me more. My confidence went way up and my insecurities were pushed aside. I went on dates with four women within six months, which I had only had 4 dates in the previous 3 YEARS before this book! After six months, I met the woman that I am now married to and we have an extremely happy marriage. I wouldn’t have talked to her if it wasn’t for this book. I still use the advice when out with friends to keep my insecurities at bay and improve my conversations and interactions with friends. The downside to this book? I have women who are in my circle of friends, even ones that are married to my guy friends, that wouldn’t have paid me the time of day before, now making moves on me and telling me they love me, even though I show no such affection to them and am faithfully married! Dangerous! Be careful!

Buy this book even if you’re just looking for a wife or long term relationship. It will open up your eyes! You’ll be amazed!

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